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Robert Ball

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Robbie developed a passion for the African bush from many visits to his family’s small holding in a greater conservancy just outside Johannesburg. Living in the big city his whole life, he always found refuge in the outdoors and has grown to appreciate ...

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on The Talamati Pride: Who Are They?

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Francesca Doria
Master Tracker

The lions dynamics are really complicated and always changing… a real challenge. The Camp Plain Males sound rather sinister as killers of females, as they are suspected to have killed the Tsalala mother. Very intriguing tale of lions troubled life

Christa Blessing
Master Tracker

Thanks Robert for the story of this pride. Rather complicated all these taking-overs of prides by new and old coalitions.But it’s good to know who is who. Very good looking lions they are and great pictures.

Vin Beni
Guest contributor

The progression of the lions is making following the storyline more complicated. The dark-maned Avova has made life interesting for himself.

Denise Vouri
Guest contributor

Oh my, what a mission you undertook to explain the arrival of the Talmati pride, their origins, etc. It’s a lot to absorb and I’ll need to re-read this so that the important details will stick. It was my original understanding that the Talmati pride was comprised of the breakaway sub-adults of the Nkuhuma pride who needed to form their own pride due to their age. But as I’ve just read, it’s more complex than that. It appears it all comes down to the mature males – Birmingham, Northern Avoca, Ndhzenga, Plains, and whoever else thinks they may have a chance. I appreciate all the work you put into this blog!

Michael and Terri Klauber
Guest contributor

Robert, How exciting! Lion dominance and “warfare” can be pretty amazing to watch – looks like esciting times ahead!

Mary Beth Wheeler
Guest contributor

What a complicated pride genealogy! Thanks for untangling it all, Rob.

Jen Purchase
Explorer

Awesome Robbie, thanks! Can’t wait to read about how it unfolds in the upcoming months!

Talamatis and the Nkuhumas are my 2 favorite Prides. Enjoyed the history lesson on them. Such a beautiful Pride. The subadult daughters are big and beautiful and I agree the males subadults males.are very big (and handsome too) . Definitely pulling for them all.

William Paynter
Digital Tracker

Robert, great story and update on many of the lions of Londolozi. Thanks for sharing.

Mj Bradley
Senior Digital Ranger

Thank you for the nice write up on the Talamati’s. One thing I noticed is that you said the N Avoca’s pushed the Birmingham Males oot of their Northern territory. The Birmingham Males had abandoned the North and the Avocas moved into their abandoned territory.

Lisa Antell
Digital Tracker

Silver Eye and the other oldest lioness are seriously strong and beautiful lionesses and we have really enjoyed getting to know the Talamatis on Djuma via WildEarth! Last year, in June 2021, we enjoyed a great sighting of Tavangumi and the 2nd oldest lioness in a bit of a sparring match over about 24 hours, regarding a nyala carcass that the lion pilfered from Tavangumi, and which he tried valiantly to reacquire! And the loss of the Stumpy Tail young lioness early this year was very very sad…..she was definitely a favorite of ours. Now we are seeing the 3 lionesses that broke away, with their new cubs and the Imbali male on Djuma again…..so the pride lives on and hopefully those cubs will make it!

Debra Matott
Senior Digital Ranger

Thanks for the low down on the Talamati’s! Those boys are going to be formidable in a few years. I know they have already been in some battles by their dad’s side. I thought maybe they would help him out in his old age, they seem to have had a close bond! Great pics, too!

Chelsea Allard
Digital Tracker

Thank you for clarifying! I was afraid the Ntsevu breakaway pride had earned an official name for themselves and I’d missed the announcement. At what point does a breakaway pride become its own and receive a name?

Jennifer Horne
Explorer

That is so complicated Robbie! Even after 3 reads I am having trouble putting it together. I don’t know how you have pieced it together. A diagrammatic version would be fantastic: The Talamati Pride
Family Tree.

Anthony Goldman
Guest contributor

Thanks Rob for all that detailed information and background of this interesting pride.We had a great sighting of them when they first moved onto the Londolozi property in April this year.

Valmai Vorster
Master Tracker

Robbie it is astonishing to read the whole story of there existence stunning cats in their own right. What is the chance of the Tsalala female teaming up with them, or will this be a huge fight for her.

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